Logic and Point of View

Okay, so here is something that started to be a circular argument in my head, but I broke the cycle and came to a conclusion. it started with this…

Define Logic: The principles that guide reasoning within a given field or situation;A method of human thought that involves thinking in a linear, step-by-step manner about how a problem can be solved
Define Point of View: A position from which something is seen; outlook; standpoint; An attitude, opinion, or set of beliefs; The perspective from which a narrative is related

Logic is usually referred to and seen as objective and usually brought up in arguments as a reason for an action, or an ultimate objective truth. Yet, logic tells me that I shouldn’t touch something hot, and fails to tell a child the same. Logic also tells me there is no santa its clearly and obvious that there isn’t and can’t be, but in the young it’s not there. Logic tells a theistic person that creationism is the only way that makes sense, however, logic tells me that evolution is a logical conclusion.

So, logic clearly isn’t objective, just as the phrase ‘common sense isn’t common’ seems to imply. It’s clear that logic is learned and under the influence of everything about your personality. I believe that faith is rooted in logic. People who claim a feeling that god told them to make a turn, and in doing so, they narrowily miss a car crash. Or maybe god told them not to walk down a  dark alley and they later hear that someone was murdered in that alley they were going to walk down. Logic is that voice in the back of your head, your conscience. However, it seems that this voice tells many different things.

It tells an alcoholic to drink, if not, he will feel awful withdrawls. It tells a murderer to grab a gun and kill someone. It tells a theist there is a God. and it tells an atheist that there isn’t and that it is illogical to believe differently. It keeps silent, or doesn’t exist in a child who touches a hot stove. It tells adults to not jump into a bonfire. Logic tells an atheist they got lucky. Logic tells a theist that God intervened.

So there it is, logic is just as subjective as point of view. Point of view effects logic, and it seems that logic reinforces point of view. My thoughts are, that we really need to stop referring to logic as an objective thing, or we need to combine the terms for point of view and logic. If we define logic further, and lay down a set of rules and terms and statements and things that define what logic is, then people could say ‘logic told me ___”. but that will never happen, because not everyone can agree on what is and isn’t logical, based on their perspective and point of view.

In colclusion, I hope that some day everyone will stop using the term ‘logical’ and ‘logic’ because these are in fact subjective things, and not universally shared. Instead I hope everyone will start using the terms ‘point of logic’ and the combination of the words logical and perspective to form ‘perspectical’.

Thank you for reading.

Published in: on October 18, 2008 at 8:01 pm  Leave a Comment  

The New Atheists’ And Morality

Alright, that’s it. I am tired of this discussion of morality. It’s all ridiculous, and here’s why.

The Christians say that morality and our sense of right and wrong comes from the Ten Commandments and then later the Bible. So, all pre-biblical people were in chaos and spent their leisure time raping, stealing and murdering everyone all the time because they had no moral code?
No. It’s a preposterous statement, so could they please stop making it?

The New Atheists all say, essentially, that we have just a sense of what is right and what is wrong. Some even say its just a “feeling”. What is the difference between that, and the “feeling” or “sense” that there’s a God? There is no difference, and the New Atheists, who are supposed to be the figurehead of non-theist representation in govenment worldwide, are making the same arguments as the people they are fighting.
Fire against fire doesnt work. When you fight fire with fire, everything turns to ash.

Instead, when it comes to morals, don’t point to books, scriptures, or theology. Point at an eagle. Point at a snake. Point at bears. Point at bees.

According to the bible, the Earth was made for Man and Man was made to rule it. We were given a moral code. A set of rules to follow. Why is it that nobody brings in animals as the discussion’s point? Especially evolutionists! We come from animals, the people you are arguing against know you believe this, so, why not use animals in your argument.

The animals arent raping, killing, stealing, warring, or murdering each other. Yes animals do kill. Yes animals do rape. But not all animals do that, and in fact the majority of the animal kingdom only kills for food or in defense, only rapes to propogate its species if they are desperate, and only steals to survive. Again, this is not a constant thing in the animal kingdom, but that doesn’t mean that its non-existent.

We need to start asking the Christians, “Okay, well, without the 10 Commandments and the Bible, why are the animals not just wiping each other out? Why are they not destroying us? Or has God given them a sense of morality too? And if the animals have a sense of morality that isn’t written down, or taught to each animal, then why do we, as descendants of these animals, need it written down to?”

Why is this not brought up? Not ever! It would allow the atheists to further prove that we have the same sense of well being, as a group and an individual, that animals do. However, this leaves the Christians having to figure out why. And if the simple answer is “well we didn’t come from animals” then why aren’t the animals destroying us? or each other? why has no one species of animal obliterated another species and continued a path of destruction? “well God wouldn’t allow that” well then, did God give the animals a sense of morality too? or does he just not allow any inter-species annihilation or any large-scale attack on the humans? and if he gave the animals a sense of morality, and they are less intelligent than ourselves, and can clearly grasp this sense of morality, then why did he leave us devoid of morality until Moses came along? did we not need it written down for us before then because we were nutty savages? and if we had a sense of morality before Moses and the 10 Commandments, then what is the point of the 10 Commandments and the Bible if we already had a pretty good moral compass before Moses?

All I want to know is, why the hell this isn’t the topic for debate when it comes to morality. Instead the figureheads of the Non-theist movement default to saying that we just have a “conscience” or a “feeling” of good and bad. Quit flaking on us guys, you are making yourselves look like hypocrites, and you are making the non-theist movement look like a fad. Organize together, have a discussion, and decide what your answers are going to be, as a group. Otherwise you are acting as splinter-cells and lose the look of a united front of a united cause.

You must describe, with science, morality. Do this.
You must describe transcendental states and ‘peak experiences’ in non-theological ways so that when people have such moments in their life, they don’t turn to religion because it’s the only thing that explains what their experiences are. Do this.
And you must stop debating everyone. These debates are not furthering the cause, but boosting your egos. Instead, grab a lot of people to march on Washington or Parliament and demand representation. Organize sit-ins. Protests. Don’t just throw money at funds and then retire to inflating your ego with another religious debate.

Get commercials on TV. Billboards. Protest sit-ins infront of churches. Demand that the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster recieve tax-breaks for all its members or the government is descriminating against their religious beliefs.

Do something. Selling books and t-shirts, and giving debates were all well and good to begin with, because it spread awareness about the cause. That’s over. People know we are here. They know how numerous we are. Lets quit doing more of the same like making youtube videos for us all to enjoy mocking the religious.

A great way to get things done is to get hollywood behind you. I imagine that there are people in hollywood who are nontheists who would love to march on Washington. This will bring even more people to help our cause.

Get together. Write a set of things out that needs changing. You are tilting at windmills if you think that you will eradicate all religion. No, the best thing you can do is start at getting equality and representation in government and then wait and cross your fingers that most prominent and supernatural-based religion will go away. There will always be crazy Scientologists and Haley’s Comet cults getting some people’s attention. It happens, and will never disappear.

So, stop debating and stop writing books, and stop putting and asking for money into secular funds. Raise money for events. Sit-ins. Protests. And to get people to washington to make themselves known. Imagine if you put a campaign together as big as Martin Luther King Jr. and every bit of funding you receive went to plane tickets for people around the USA to fly to DC and protest and march on Washington.

If not, you are just wasting everyones time and hope that you will actually help to get anything done. It’s time to get some things done. To give explanations for all aspects of life so that people who dont want to turn to religion, can get logical, and fact-based answers. No more “‘God did it”, let’s be honest and not afraid to shrug our shoulders and say “we dunno yet”. All of science is a guessing game. That’s the point! Why are we afraid to admit it? That’s what separates us from the theists. In the face of opposition or a question we cannot answer, we happily claim that we don’t know yet. Be proud of not knowing! It’s what makes you ask questions in the first place. It’s what separates you from just taking anything that any priest of any religion tries to feed you and accepting it. It’s okay that you don’t know everything, that’s what makes this movement what it is.

I hope that somewhere on the internet, this gets seen by many people, and I hope that others can agree. Please, let me know if you are a non-theist of any kind and agree with what I’ve said here. And, please, if some religious person starts quoting the bible, just don’t give them your time, or anger, by responding to them. I will simply remove their comment, and we can try and keep to productive conversation here.They will not be harmed for their anger, but by their anger.

Published in: on October 18, 2008 at 7:34 pm  Leave a Comment  

Creativity

When you tap into creativity, coffee and cigs become your life blood.
You keep nutrigrain bars and cereal boxes nearby to fend off the caffeine jitters.
It’s the one time you hate that you cant smoke in your apartment.

You have a special set of songs on your playlist for just such moments.
You find a song that strikes a chord with your creativity, set it to loop.
You never touch those songs when you’re feeling normal. They’re sacred.

Your bowels tremble from your surge in poor diet.
Using the bathroom is an inconvenience, an unwelcome intermission.
You hold it as long as you can, to ensure you dont lose your existentialism.

The TV is on, set to a channel you dont pay any attention.
The voices and flicker of light keep you grounded to reality.
The curtains are closed and only a dim light illuminates the room.

The graphite smudges as you furiously place your hand all over your drawing.
The drawing becomes something different than what it started out to be.
An evolution of consciousness and being, reflected on paper.

You lost count of how many cigs were left half a pack ago.
The wind blows your hair as you smoke your cigarette slowly.
You have every thought and no thought, only an urge to get back into your apartment, your sanctuary.

You pick a new song on your playlist, but it only distracts you.
It isnt helping you to tap into the vein of consciousness streaming from mind to hand to paper.
A moment later you go back to the previous song. Relaxation. It’s perfectly you.

What sparked this streak? Your dreams the previous night?
Maybe it was styling your hair differently, maybe it was because you finally had a day off.
In the end, you are entranced.

The picture nearly complete. You cant start something new.
You keep fixing the drawing, making it perfect, so you can stay in your thoughts.
Too many smudges on the picture. Erasing those will keep you in No Mind a few minutes longer.

Something entrances you about the instant coffee string hanging from your cup.
Another sip, and you miss, spilling it all over your tattered jeans. Maybe it was your jeans that sparked this feeling.
It’s heresy to the creativity gods, but you dont allow it to effect you. Stay focused, dont let the hot coffee against your leg take you from this perfection. No Gods, no masters.

Suddenly, a memory. You had a bike stolen, in another life. A dream life.
Why the hell would you need a bike? Unfortunately that thought hadnt occurred to you in the dream.
You strive for lucidity while asleep, but its unattainable, a breeze on your cig’s hot ember.

Bend like bamboo. Become a river. Flex/flow.
These alien concepts, are now being directly experienced.
Turn states into traits.

The previous show ends, another begins.
Sad, I wish I had followed the Soprano’s while it was still on.
A rerun you’ve never seen, and arent paying enough attention to enjoy.
Note to self, torrent all Soprano’s seasons.

Another cig. Your downstairs neighbor walks by, smiling at you.
A fake smile returned. Fuck ‘em, they’re a distraction. Come back when you’re feeling creative, cause you’re fucking up my chi.

The house is too messy, you should really clean it.
Not now, im busy discovering Oneness.
National Geographic channel yearning for me to care about starving children.
Maybe later. I’m too busy malnourishing myself. Yeah, $5 a day aint much to most, but thats a pack of cigs you wont have the cash to smoke.

A text message, and a phone call, both ignored. I’m busy.
Adding a poster and a man prying open his third eye to the drawing. Buddhist chants on the wall.
Maybe this is a dream, and I am finally lucid dreaming. I wont test it to find out. I’m busy.

You forgot deodorant this morning, and the summer heat is reminding you of your need for it.
Your lip curls as you erase another mistake. No time for mistakes. Your moustache reeks. Did you brush your teeth?
Another trip to the bathroom. Not enough arms to piss, brush your teeth, and put on antiperspirant. Dont wanna hit the seat. Wiping it off would waste time. No time for mistakes.

Minty breath subsides quickly with the constant gulps of coffee.
A minute and thirty seconds for another cup. Makes you wish you had a coffee pot instead of these instant singles.
It gives you just enough time to get grounded to reality.

Good thing you showered earlier. No time for a cleansing rain.
Typing on your keyboard. Graphite under your gnarled fingernails.
You wanna change the song so badly, strike another vein of consciousness, start another picture.
A blog will suffice for now. The hollywood theme from a vampire first-person shooter. It cradles you, and entrances you. Everything and nothing. No Mind, and Every Mind. IBS flaring up. Gotta hold it, keep grounded to the existential, the infinite, the universal…

Published in: on October 18, 2008 at 7:08 pm  Leave a Comment  

Floating Over the Cliff’s Edge

The scariest thing about vertical growth of consciousness is a hands-off understanding and growth of it, at least directly hands-off. The thing that I myself have a hard time getting past is that through meditation and self understanding you will grow. You may never reach the ultimate constant witnessing of a peak experience, but you must enjoy the occassional samsara.
The hard thing to grasp is that growth of consciousness will come naturally, like a plant, given the right conditions. However you must make sure that you are at the most optimum condititions to recieve that seed’s growth. The soil, the basis for the seed’s life, must be nutrient rich. Keep learning and understanding to enrich your consciousness’ soil. The seed will need sunlight to be able to feed itself. Keep meditating to ensure that your consciousness can sustain itself without your direct interferance. Keeping all your conditions optimum means that eventually the seed will grow, your consciousness will expand and you will flex/flow. But, like the soil and the sun, it doesn’t wait for the seed. It doesnt need the seed to benefit all the other seeds and life.
That is the hard part, keeping yourself at optimum condidtions and not yearning or waiting for the seed to arrive. I happen to be very goal-oriented, and when I want to accomplish something, I get it done. However, I’ve come to realize that this driving mechanism for my existance up until now, is tethering me to lower-consciousness. This striving for learning and understanding has gotten me this far, and I now realize that it too must be let go of.
I currently dangle over the cliff’s edge. I’m surrounded and can peer into the hyperspace of open consciousness. However i’m dangling off the cliff’s edge, tethered to it by the things i’ve used to get me to the cliff and finally to jump. The jump wasnt hard. I wanted it, and I wanted to understand it. I wanted to be immersed in it. That is the cord that keeps me attached to the cliff. I am so close to hyperspace, I can see it, but I’m not free of the cliff enough to explore and understand it.
That’s when it happened. My dreams seem, for me, to be the ultimate gateway into understanding. In a dream, you are aware of this new world, and you completely accept and understand it with no need to explore it as a new whole, because it is a part of you. The lucid dream, though paramount, is hard to achieve. You must break free of the blind acceptance of the dream, but you must do it gently as to not shock yourself awake. The integral balance lies within the lucid dream.
Understanding lucid dreams made me understand something else. If a dream is the usual, the normal, the accepted, and the lucid dream is seeing all and understanding all in the dream without exploring or needing to research, then so is the relation to everyday life and mass consciousness. Not many people lucid dream, and even fewer remember it if they do. There are many techniques to make yourself likely to attain such a dream, but there are no guarantees. You just have to do what you can and be prepared for the moment when it arrives.
I’ve realized that today. I need to learn and explore and grow within my world. However, there are so many books, and maps, and understandings of the world. There are even books and techniques to achieve the hyperspace of consciousness. But there are no books on what that consciousness is, or how to guarantee its attainment, or the personal changes you have to make or un-make to be apart of it. That’s because, “the limits of my language are the limits of my world”. We do not yet have enough understanding to put it into words, and there are so many unknown variables that a how-to guide can only be vague at best.
And it has suddenly ‘clicked’. I was trying to know and understand this hyperspace, and get there already. I made the jump but I was still attached to the cliff.
There is no jumping. You don’t jump off the cliff at all. You stand at its edge and step off the edge. Once off it’s edge you disintegrate as your former sense of one goes away and you become a part of that consciousness. You do not seek to understand it, because you are it.
With this new understanding I awoke this morning feeling euphoric and in a creative meditative state. Yesterday I was dangling from the cliff, attached by unknown and unseen cords and tethers. I now am floating off the cliff’s edge. Still attached to the cliff, but understanding that I am. Knowing that I am attached to it, but in knowing that, I am far better off than I was before. I am ensuring that my soil and sun are at the optimum conditions. I no longer need to dangle, by dangling, the tethers become my focus, another thing to understand and learn and try and sever, instead of allowing myself to just be.
Published in: on October 18, 2008 at 7:07 pm  Leave a Comment  

The Contention of How/Why

I recently came to a realization. I realized that there are many things that humans have the ability to do, that separates us from the animals around us. Nothing special there, but let me delve into that for a moment.

Humans have two things that defines our specific abilities. The first is constructive thought in the form of ‘how’. This is our ability to understand ecosystems, our biological place on the planet, the way that symbiotic relationships between species form a cycle that continues to replenish life on the planet.

The way I break that down is that an eagle in the USA doesn’t know about elephants or wolves, or bacterium. It eats when its hungry, sleeps when its tired, and procreates when it can. If it does happen upon an elephant, it doesn’t try and understand the thing. It doesn’t try and distinguish it from the other things that it knows of. It merely accepts it as something that is either harmful to itself, or not.

Human beings cannot do this. We cannot just look at something and not try and understand it. We have a craving to understand it. This is where Science has come in. It’s the best tool we have made for the ‘How’ question we have about everything around us.

Schools all over the world accept that we must teach our children as much of the ‘How’ that we can. This is seen in English class (in English-speaking countries) because you must know how to use your language. It’s seen in Mathematics and Science, as you must understand how the planet works, as well as the creatures on it. It is also seen in History class as we must understand how things came to be the way they are today.

That covers the ‘How’, and now I get to the ‘Why’.

There is an increasing movement here in the USA to have prayer and creationism taught in our schools. Until recently I dismissed it as religious totalitarianism, but I finally understand it is much more than that.

Religion seems that it would develop naturally from our consciousness. Our consciousness separates us from the animals, however, unlike instinct, we cannot just go through consciousness and just ‘feel it out’. We have to feed the ‘How’ of our consciousness and enrich the ‘Why’. However, in order to make our consciousness seem understandable, and attainable, we have to put limits on it. If we say to ourselves “our consciousness leads us to God. And I have the rules of which to follow to attain great knowledge and understanding of the way the world works. The rules are here in this book, my Bible.” then, it helps us to get a better grasp on the hugely, and infinitely amazing depth of our consciousness. We feel that we have control of it, and understanding of it.

This is the ‘Why’. Why are we here? Why am I lonely? Why did the universe come into existence. The fact is that Religion is the most widely accepted answer to this ‘Why’. You are here because God put you into your body. You are lonely as a test of your faith. The universe came into existence because God wanted to make existence. Religion is the only widely accepted answer to ‘Why’. And that is where the problem comes from.

The fact is that the sceintific people of the ‘How’ answers believe that there is only ‘How’ and that through ‘How’ everything can eventually be attained. The ‘Why’ religious people believe that all answers can be attained through ‘Why’. And neither wants to accept that both questions, How and Why, are necessary for our human consciousness.

The proof that How and Why are necessary are seen everyday. We need religion, but why? Because it answers Why. It is the most widely accepted answer to ‘Why’. If you do not want religion to be around anymore as the New Atheists do, then create a new form of Why. Instead, they fall on their sword and say that How is the only answer and need for answer. So, all the religious who have asked Why, and have gotten answers from their religious leaders, are being told ‘Nope. Not only do you have no answers, but the way you are going about getting answers is all wrong.’ And this negates their feeling that they got/get when their ‘Why’ is answered. This negates their peak experiences that they are told is the Divine Hand. You cannot take a basket of apples from someone and hand them a single orange and try and convince them that they aren’t losing anything.

The same goes for religion. Someone with a basket of oranges, the scientific and New Atheist community, cannot be shown an apple and be told ‘this is all you need. If you have this, you shall never need anything else.’ If you talk eloquently enough, they may be dissuaded from their basket of oranges, and once they try the apple, may end up staying with apples. They eat this apple, and it tastes wholly different from the oranges they have been so used to. The same goes for the religious. However, both side goes too far. What we need is BOTH apples and oranges in our basket. The fact that people can enjoy both apples and oranges, and everyday, thousands of people transition from an apple to an orange, or from an orange to an apple, this fact, shows that there must be something about oranges and apples that we need.

What we must realize is that it isn’t the apple or the orange that we need, but both, as well, we must understand both why and how of each. How can we transition between apples and oranges? Because our tastebuds allow us to taste the various flavors. Why do we transition between apples and oranges? Because there is something about each that you cannot get from the other.

This comes back to the idea that I mentioned earlier. The want for prayers in schools. However, if creationism is taught alongside evolution, it will degrade the scientific value of evolution. And it will degrade and confuse children because how are they supposed to choose which science to follow? The problem is that schools (elementary, middle and high schools) only require knowledge of How, and only teach How. People are to learn the various Why outside of school. But every person needs to answer for themselves Why, and to keep it outside of schools, means that everyone accepts that people do not need to know Why, or at least, they dont need it enough to be taught about it.

So, the problem comes from this because there is no Why in schools. That is, at the core, what those who want Creationism/Intelligent Design in schools want to see. However you cannot teach children a How in the same breath of Why. It confuses and twists things in their head.

So, here is my proposition. A compromise. Prayer cannot be brough back into schools, because you must then ask ‘Which prayers’? If its the Hail Mary, Christians cannot accpet that, as they do not pray to Mary. And if you pick the Lord’s Prayer, you will ostricize the Muslims, non-theists, and all the various other religions. It would cause more problems than it is worth. The solution is not creationism in schools. But Why in schools. The people who are pro-How will be anti-Why. And the pro-Why are becoming increasingly anti-How, taking their children to religious private schools, or homeschooling them.

The compromise is realizing the source and core of why the religious Fundamentalists want creationism in schools. They want their children to understand Why. Unfortunately, they are given an extremely narrow view of Why, as with most religions. The Why needs to accept that, not only are there many various types of Why, but also that their children do need How. And the How need to accept that everyone needs Why.

I propose that we teach our children Why in schools. Not the Christian Why, or the Muslim Why, or the Catholic Why, or the New Age Why. We must teach them all these Why’s, and the Why of Nietzsche, and Krishnamurti, and Daniel Dennett, and the Why of Buddha, and of both eastern and western philosophies.

The fact is that we need our children to understand the Why, and learn critical thinking and understanding of mass consciousness. This is innate with us. If we teach them How and they have a peak experience, and someone with a Bible tells them it was Jesus Christ, they will be Born Again. If we tell our children that Allah and Muhammad are Why, and someone comes along with fossils of evolution, they will doubt and question their Why teachings and may drop them entirely. However, Whyers and Howers never lose their want for the answer to both. A Hower asks “What is our place in this universe, and what happens when we die?” and they are answered by Howers “We came from the things that came before us, and we do not yet know exactly what happens when we die, but we are gonna find out someday”. The Whyer asks “Wat is our place in the universe, and what happens when we die?” and they are answered by the other Whyers of their faith “God put us here. And you go to heaven when you die. Any other question you may ask, the answer is that we do not know, but God will show us someday.”

This shows that we need the How and Why both. I am trying to imagine a world where our children come home from school speaking of Buddha and Christ, and Dennett and Nietzsche in the same breath. A Philosophy class thoroughout our schooling, I believe, is necessary. We must stop denying that all humans ask Why and will search for answers to it. We must stop driving them from school and into their Churches or Mosques for these answers. We must stop denying that all humans ask How and will search for answers to it. We must stop driving them into schools and making them ostricized from those who ask Why.

A child of Christian parents, a child of Muslim parents, a child of Atheist parents, all four years old, are on a playground. None of the children fight or squabble any more than with those of their own parent’s faith. But take a Muslim, a Christian, and an Atheist adult in the same room, and what happens? Each has locked themselves into their own How/Why view. Something happens between the time that those children become adults. We get solidified into a single ideal. The ideal of science, of everlasting life, of heaven, of reincarnation. Now imagine if children were taught Eastern and Western philosophies and religions from an early age. Do you think they would hijack an airplane? Try and convert the poor of Third Worlds to Christianity? Do you think that they would get into a shouting match on Youtube comments section against the Fundamentalists? Or do you think that they would be more critical thinkers? Do you think they would have more respect, and knowledge, of their fellow man?

When it all comes down to it, every single human being with consciousness asks both How and Why. We are all How/Whyers. The problem is when we lose sight of that and make ourselves Hower or we make ourselves Whyers. We are not one group against another, we are people who are trying to grasp our vast consciousness, and live our lives as best as we can.

Thank you for your time.

Published in: on October 18, 2008 at 7:06 pm  Leave a Comment  
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